Plasch tent set up?

[capricekid]

I was pondering life when this question came into my strange mind. Did the Red Army have tent poles and stakes issued or did they just kinda make due with what they could find or scavenge? Do you guys have any pics or descriptions of how you set your plasch palaces up? Thanks!!

Joe

[daveww2]

Hmmm...

I've never seen any photos of any issued with the Rain Cape, I don't think they were issued with any (like US GIs were) They made do with what they could find. German Zelt Poles and Pins work good. Mostly, just cut a sapling and size to what you need for a pole... Sticks can be cut for tent pins too. Nails and Spikes work too.

The Larger Soviet tents (Squad and Command and so on...) did have poles and Pins issued but I just haven't seen anything about the capes.

DaaHVeeD
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capricekid said:

I was pondering life when this question came into my strange mind. Did the Red Army have tent poles and stakes issued or did they just kinda make due with what they could find or scavenge? Do you guys have any pics or descriptions of how you set your plasch palaces up? Thanks!!

Joe

[crazydima]

Tovarisch,

Go the the RKKA Yahoo group and look in their "files" section under "field gear 1930-1945."

You have to be a member in order to access the files but joining is easy.


groups.yahoo.com/group/RKKA/?yguid=85162853


There are diagrams there which show some of the different variations of how to assemble plasches for shelter.

It also shows the tent peg styles, poles which appear to be according to the "regulations"

However, to date I have not seen any good photos of any sizable shelters made out of plasches by the soldiers. I have seen lean tos in photos and some other field improvised set ups. Unable to make out poles used or pins either.

Soldiers can be quite creative when situations call for it.

Hope this helps.

Sincerely,

Dima

[daveww2]

If you look at the drawing on the Yahoo list, it appeares the poles and pins are similar to the German ones.

This might work:
If your looking for poles the ones that come with the French version of the GI Pup Tent are pretty close to what is pictured, so are the foot pins too.

Also do a search on ebay for tent pins and you'll find a guy who is selling cases of the metal, skinny, small foot pins pictured.

DaaHVeed

[ivanthecutthroat]

I asked a soviet veteran about his sleeping arrangements and he told me that they almost never set their plashes up. I feel that as a reenactor you should take it event by event. If you are in a situation where they would of had the time or energy to set up a tent, go ahead. If not, just use your plash as a blanket. just my opinion.

[bef]

Very Correct, they didn't seem to bother .. they just slept in a hedge / under your vehicle rapped in a Plasch palatkas ( Great Coat as a liner) as they were on the move, you cover your Hole, or you live in lager Tents and Bunkers.. The Red Army always fortifies its positions when it stops...however this is a period piece of art work I believe....



I cut lengths or carry per cut lengths of wood/ sticks and use them as poles and pegs as Noted above.

or I string them between the trees..

Plasch palatkas need about Three Metres of Thin Rope to lace them together or to make Guy Ropes... this is what I have found with use and some Plasch palatkas I have bought.



I do have some Trophy Fascist Poles and Pegs, but I rarely use them.

[jmatchlock]

check out the manual=www.mediafire.com/download.php?nmmky5ybtji

[crazydima]

Tovarisch,

Excellent posting of the manual!

Sincerely,

Dima

[jmatchlock]

tent poles -

[bef]

Comrades,
As an aid to the struggle to throw back the Pit Viper Vandal Horde, this has been worked on by the 185th Independent Electronic Interpretation Shock Batt of the 62th Army...

The .jpg Complex will allow for easy use...



One wooden Peg, One Wire one, Two poles and a Guy Rope.







Thank you Comrade.

[bef]

Comrades,
The declassified Images of the Research and Development Directorate's completed Production quota .





The Hotch as been improved in the Wooden Peg M Complex.

The Wooden Peg Complex is from a Production Centre from this Military District, the Wire Peg is from a Camping store, (lucky for them that their product already conformed to Moscow Centre's Norms, thus saving SMERCh small arms ammunition in the hunting down of Wreckers).

The Poles were a discovery, three years back at the Detling Front I recovered as trophies, thinking them only Fascist junk to be used and thrown away when no longer needed, during an audit of the Rezidency's Trophy Archive Storage Facility, these three Poles were found ( after interrogation), to having all the Dimension Norms laid down in the Progressive Historical Document declassified in an earlier posting by this Command.

The Archive Bureau Director and his Staff have been arrested for failure to identify possible State Property earlier.

After a period of rehabilitation by SMERCh the Poles were transferred to Rezidency's Regimental Direction of Interest 13.

The Guy Rope is from B and Q .....a UK SSR Hardware store.

All this was possible due to the advantages of a Centrally controlled Command Society.

Urrah!.

[horsesoldier176]

Tovarischi;

Here is a canvas carrier that I was told was part of the Plasch tent set up kit, from before the outbreak of the GPW.









These pictures are of someone else set, but mine is the same, except mine also has four wooden stakes, and a tie down rope.

I was told by a German re-enactor that he thought it was German, but the canvas is not a "common" German color, but mine matches much of my Red Army canvas.

Boridin

[dixieflyer]

It looks just like the German set up for Zeltbahn poles, carrier, etc. though.

Yuri S.

[bef]

Comrades, This Image has just been declassified by Comrade of this Rezident,



Enjoy.

[horsesoldier176]

In other words, the troops in the field may very well have made their own, used some other bag, or carrier, or even used captured gear.

Boridin