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Post by crazydima on Sept 13, 2006 13:03:08 GMT -5
Tovarischi, This is an interesting photo of a scout by the name of Frolchenko and is supposedly taken during the Kursk campaign. On the surface it appears to be like many scout photos but take a closer look and you will see something very interesting. i8.photobucket.com/albums/a50/crazydima/scoutfrolchenkokursk.jpgTake a look at the ammo pouches he is wearing vs the type of weapon he is carrying. Then look at what is in the ammo pouches. It appears that this Frontovik has cut holes in his Nagant ammo pouches so he can place F-1 grenades in them. One grenade in each pouch. Personally I find this to be a very good idea. When you open a flap you have access to one grenade and once it is extracted from the pouch it is empty and thus you do not need to close it. However, with a standard F-1 grenade pouch it holds three and thus you need to close the flap after you open it to retrieve one or else the others may fall out. Gotta love improvisation. Sincerely, Dima |
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Post by crazydima on Sept 16, 2006 14:00:44 GMT -5
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Post by crazydima on Sept 16, 2006 14:08:43 GMT -5
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35divmp
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Post by 35divmp on Sept 18, 2006 16:43:14 GMT -5
Dima: I don't know, but the pattern almost looks like my late grandmother's curtains. Jay |
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Post by bendanov on Apr 27, 2007 10:55:22 GMT -5
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Post by 35divmp on Apr 27, 2007 11:47:58 GMT -5
Martin: Nice early original or nice early reenactment photo? Jay |
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Post by bendanov on Apr 27, 2007 14:05:53 GMT -5
It came out of site in Russia. You can tell it is real. The insignia is too good.  Martin |
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Post by crazydima on Apr 30, 2007 11:01:57 GMT -5
Tovarischi,
It is a period photo.
I have the location and the names for the two riflemen in the photo somewhere in my stack of stuff.
It is a neat staged photo showing some very good details of the uniform.
Sincerely,
Dima
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Post by Gregoriy on May 9, 2007 18:10:49 GMT -5
Looking at the photo, I'd have to say it's postwar or reenactment. The helmets are the giveaway- high rivets with leather chinstraps. The classic indicators of the highly incorrect post war helmets so prevalent in Russian reenacting.
Otherwise, very spot-on impressions! ;D
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Post by bendanov on May 9, 2007 21:41:15 GMT -5
Guess your not to familiar with the 39 model helmet.  They are lined like the 36 helmet. There were a couple of different models of it. Notice the other rivet on the first helmet. That is a wartime hybrid model. They have 2 types of chinstraps. One has is leather with a webbing backing. The other is made of folded cloth. Yes, they wore them. aboutww2militaria.com/December%202005/m40_helmet2.htmlMartin |
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Post by Konstantin on May 10, 2007 8:27:52 GMT -5
Guess your not to familiar with the 39 model helmet. They are lined like the 36 helmet. Exactly. And that is where reenactors can defarb those awful czech helmets with minimal sewing skills. It only take a little time, a few swear words and zippo crash bang, your czech helmet has the early war liner. Cannibalize a couple of equipment straps for helmet straps and you are set to go. Next project is to get that stupid 3 pad liner out of my M36 and I will be cannibalizing a czech helmet for that. Just need to set down and figure it out. Hehehehehe My sewing skills are atrocious however if I can do it just about anyone can.  Of course now I have a czech shell with no liner. Hmmmm What to do what to do. LOL Let the chaos begin. -dave 416th |
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Post by bendanov on May 10, 2007 8:58:21 GMT -5
Well you take the 3 pads out of your 36. Fill in the 2 holes in Czech. Drill the 6 holes an M40 needs. Make some chinstrap mounts and your now in the possesion of an M40. We have talked about doing this.
I did forget to mention something about the 39. I had a couple of guys in the unit complaining about ringing helmets. Thier helmets would ring when someone shot near them. I couldn't figure out what they were talking about. They were both wearing converts and said that they ring all the time.
Martin
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Post by Gregoriy on May 10, 2007 13:02:57 GMT -5
I'm fully aware of the existence of M39 helmets' existence, and the thought had crossed my mind... but other problems present itself. Also, leather chinstraps on a helmet were solely intended for naval infantry. As far as other problems...Namely, the heel irons on the boots. Heel irons on Russian rubber-soled boots? Afraid not  Little doubt in my mind that this is a reenacting or postwar snapshot. |
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Post by bendanov on May 10, 2007 18:02:34 GMT -5
The early war boots were not rubber soled. They were very similiar to common jackboots worn by European Armies. I would suggest that you do some more research. They had 2 different types of boots. Those boots are Yalovie not Sapogi. Yalovie are leather soled with heel plates. Sapogi are rubber soled.
Where did you get this Naval Infantry with leather chinstrap info from? Those helmets show up in lots of photos that are not Naval Infantry during the 1941 period. They are even in Osprey books.
Why don't you register?
Martin
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Post by crazydima on May 14, 2007 12:40:48 GMT -5
I'm fully aware of the existence of M39 helmets' existence, and the thought had crossed my mind... but other problems present itself. Also, leather chinstraps on a helmet were solely intended for naval infantry. As far as other problems...Namely, the heel irons on the boots. Heel irons on Russian rubber-soled boots? Afraid not Little doubt in my mind that this is a reenacting or postwar snapshot. Tovarischi, Sorry for taking so long but I finally found my link to the photo in question. The caption for the photo reads as follows: "Snipers sergeant Bedash P.I. (on the right) and corporal Plehov are put forward on a fighting position"
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Place of shooting: the Leningrad front"The website for the photo is: victory.rusarchives.ru/index.php?p=31&photo_id=106I too am curious as to how it was determined that the photo is a post war re-enactment photo. How exactly was it determined that the boots have rubber soles? "leather chinstraps on a helmet were solely intended for naval infantry."I am not familiar with that piece of information. Where exactly does that come from? I have heard similar statements made about all sorts of equipment, weapons and uniforms for many armies of many periods only to find out that very seldom does such a statement hold water. I look forward to some clarification. Sincerely, Dima (student of learning experiences) |
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They are lined like the 36 helmet. There were a couple of different models of it. Notice the other rivet on the first helmet. That is a wartime hybrid model. They have 2 types of chinstraps. One has is leather with a webbing backing. The other is made of folded cloth. Yes, they wore them. 
