PPsh-43 Semi-Autos

[FrigidAdam]

Tovarisch,

Once these are up for sale, how would one blank-adapt them???

Would it require tapping the barral and inserting a set-screw thingy?

www.militarygunsupply.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=FIRUPPSH43P

I dont know, maybe I sould just stick to defending myself from THE SMOOVES and not fight the facists anymore.

Adam

[blacst]

You could have MSG Blank adapt it for you. But yea you would need to thread the barrel. You could get two barrels with it. One blank adapted and one standard barrel.

[daveww2]

You'll need to drill and then thread the inside of the barrel for 3/8 set screws -- coarse or fine thread, your choice. I prefer fine thread.

If this scares you (you don't want to do it yourself) send your BARREL ONLY to me and I'll do it for you and return it to you (return USPS Priority shipping included) for $50.00. pm or email me. I already do US M-1 Garands & Carbines and Soviet SVT 40s.

hometown.aol.com/daveww2/Daveww2.html

hometown.aol.com/daveww2/GOPHERMUNITIONSWORKS.html

Since I haven't messed with one yet I can't make you up any set screws (BFAs) I need to have an idea what range the orifice sizes are for which particular brand of blanks for this particular weapon.

As soon as I have the extra rubles/ shekels, I'm getting the PPSH 41 Semi-auto.

Dave
(DaahVeeD)
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frigidadam said:

Tovarisch,

Once these are up for sale, how would one blank-adapt them???

Would it require tapping the barral and inserting a set-screw thingy?

www.militarygunsupply.com/shop/item.asp?itemid=FIRUPPSH43P

I dont know, maybe I sould just stick to defending myself from THE SMOOVES and not fight the facists anymore.

Adam

[temil61747]

If the barrel can be removed like the original, no problem...2 barrels, one blank adapted, and the other live. That was my idea when I first saw these advertised. The only problem...I called MGS, and the guy I spoke to was not able to tell me if the barrel was removable in the same way as the original. ? The barrel on the 41 is not removeable, so I believe this is a very important question as the 43's are coming from the same place. One other concern, If you do get one, and internally thread for a blank adapter, (which I have considered) I think, for safety's sake, it might be a good idea to slightly enlarge the hole in the flash hider. (the little "U' shaped metal thingie riveted to the barrel jacket.) That is if you ever plan on shooting live ammo. A bullet leaving the barrel at even a slightly off center angle and clipping the edge of the flash hider could screw up your whole day. I hope to examine one of these more closely at Knob Creek in Oct. I will let you all know if the barrels are removable.

[temil61747]

I checked with MGS at Knob Creek. The PPs43's are supposed to be in shortly. Unlike the 41's, they say the 43 barrels are removeable, so, you should be able to substitute a blank adapted barrel wwith no trouble, but, I didn't get to examine one, so, I urge you to re-confirm this before ordering one.

[Ed and Tammy]

Don't hold your breath on these. I sent my kit to be built on 22 nov. '06. I was told 3-4 weeks. I'm still waiting, and getting excuses. I'll let you know what happens.

[Ed and Tammy]

Update: Received mine about 6 weeks ago. Contrary to earlier beliefs, the barrel is not removable. No problem. I had a local Gunsmith tap and thread the barrel for use with a set of blank adapters for my M1 Carbine (works fine, also conveniently.30 cal.) He also opened up the flash hider a bit for safety while shooying live ammo. We still have a problem though. I bought a case of that nice, cheap combloc 7.62x25 blank ammo, and it fires every time you put a round in the chamber, but, here's the problem...it won't cycle reliably. In an original SMG, all the back-pressure needs to do is blow the bolt back so it's held by the sear. In these redesigned semi-autos, it has to blow back the bolt, and also re-One eyed trouser snake the hammer, which has a fairly stiff spring, and the blanks, even when used with the smallest size BFA hole, just don't have the power. I have fired about 150 blanks through it, and best results so far have been acheived with a 5/32 BFA hole, and that was only 5 shots without a malfunction. Not good. It's going back to the gunsmith to see if he can do anything with the hammer sping to strike the fine balance between lightening it enough to be re-cocked by the back-pressure from a blank, yet not so light that it won't hit the primers hard enough for reliable ignition every time. If this doesn't work, I guess it's goodbye to nice cheap blanks. Common sense says that the Soviet bloc had to have blank-adapted their pistol-caliber weapons somehow, or all these blanks wouldn't exist! I have translated copies of manuals for both the '41 and '43, and can find no reference to this. Anybody know for sure how they did it? Sorry to be long-winded, but want to provide all info possible for anyone considering buying one of these. It'll be great if I can get it working!

[bendanov]

I looked at the KP 44 version this weekend. It is pretty cool. It is a heck of a pistol to hold with one hand. LOL

Martin

[Ed and Tammy]

OK, I thought the problem might have been blanks or blank adapting. Nope. Tried 20 live rounds. Scared the #@&* out of me. One slam fire and 6 other malfunctions. I called the manufacturer. He has promised a quick turn-around and a fix to all problems. I'll let you know how it turns out. It's being shipped back to them later today.

[Alyosha]

Please do let us know. I've been eying the PPS 43 for awhile now and hated to hear that they were experience some serious 'teething issues'. Hopefully the problems will be resolved come birthday time.

[Ed and Tammy]

Well, I got it back quick, and it's better, but far from good. No more slam fires. Still no good with cheap surplus blanks. Another reenactor loaned me a few blanks from Satterley, and it ran perfectly with them, even after 100 rounds of incredibly filthy dirty surplus blanks had run through it (with many malfunctions) I thought "OK, so I just have to spend more on blanks, but it works. Problem solved" Wrong! Cleaned it, lubed it, to the range with good quality S&B live ammo, time for fun...WRONG! about 30 rounds, and about 10 failures to eject and/or extract! when it did work, extraction very erratic. One casing 15 ft to the right front, the next one at my feet, the next, failure to eject, etc. I'm going to ask the manufacturer what ammo they test fire these with, and try that, but no high hopes, it's probably going back again

[Ed and Tammy]

Yay! After it's second trip back to the manufacturer, it works great! Use only good quality blanks, though. Forget cheap surplus crap! Be careful of Com Bloc surplus live ammo too. Some of it is over pressure. The manufacturer has blown up 3 guns with this stuff.