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Post by devyn86 on Mar 18, 2010 17:32:10 GMT -5
What exactly did the soldiers carry in their meshok? I have a few things but am curious as to what all they might have had! Also I would like you all to tell me (in detail) your meshok items. If you would be so inclined.  |
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zayats
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Post by zayats on Mar 18, 2010 18:36:46 GMT -5
A set of underwear,
A spare towel, with soapdish, tooth powder box, razor and tooth brush and shaving brush rolled inside this.
A pair of spare portyanki and handkerchiefs.
All of the above items should be packed to form a soft layer between your back and solid objects (mug, canned stuff etc.) inside the meshok
At the bottom of the meshok
A podsumok of wrapped products (bread, meat, dried fish ect)
A podsumok of salt.
A sewing kit
Cleaning kit for weapon
A mug
Podsoomok for sugar
Podsoomok for tea.
Bakalite butterdish.
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Post by devyn86 on Mar 18, 2010 19:22:13 GMT -5
Thank you Comrade, Thats very helpful.
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Post by historymuseum2000 on Mar 18, 2010 21:05:20 GMT -5
Excellent information and very good question comrades!
This is area where one starts to put the rubles where their mouth is. the little details that count and I really enjoy.
Lev
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Post by devyn86 on Mar 18, 2010 21:17:50 GMT -5
I remembered it off of the "whats in your pockets" question! Off the other forum. Figured it would be good to know. As well as let us new guys with meshoks know what goes and doesnt.
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Post by ashgld15 on Jun 14, 2010 14:56:16 GMT -5
What is a "Podsumok"?
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zayats
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Post by zayats on Jun 15, 2010 9:30:30 GMT -5
It literally means 'underbag' i.e a little pouch that goes in or under something else.
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Post by ashgld15 on Jun 15, 2010 15:53:42 GMT -5
I see. So,it could mean the small drawstring bags for "stuff and such",yes?
On the subject of meshoks:most of the rucksacks(original and repro) I see have a metal friction-type of buckle on the chest strap. My repro has the wooden toggle and cloth loops. I think Ostfront was /is selling that style. Does anyone know if the toggle type is the usual variant so prevalent in WW2 Red Army stuff or...what? There was also the WW1 meshok(1915 model, I think). I think that used a loop and toggle on the chest strap? Anyone know about this toggle and loops vs. metal friction-type buckle in WW2?
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Post by horsesoldier176 on Jul 2, 2010 14:13:22 GMT -5
Tovarisch Ash;
It is my understanding that both methods were used during the GPW. The toggle style is more likely pre-war, but continued throughout the war, whereas the buckle style is later war, and post war.
Boridin
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Post by ashgld15 on Jul 3, 2010 18:44:05 GMT -5
Thanks.That's along the lines of what I am thinking. Either way,if we look at photos of the myshoks being worn, the chest straps don't get much use anyway.The troops just tend to leave them haging out of the way in typical front-line fashion!
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Post by dixieflyer on Jul 3, 2010 21:52:36 GMT -5
My repro from Ostfront has the toggles. I kind of like it since most everybody else's has the buckle. Nice to have a mix in the unit.
Yuri S.
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Post by horsesoldier176 on Jul 6, 2010 14:01:03 GMT -5
The only time I use the chest strap, is when I am riding on horseback, to prevent the meshok from slipping off my shoulders when I rise to the trot.
Boridin
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Post by ashgld15 on Jul 7, 2010 17:04:43 GMT -5
Riding horseback! That is so cool to have such an important aspect of the actual Red Army in reenacting. Would cavalrymen have the same essentials as riflemen in their meshoks?
Also, what was the actual issue of "horse-essentials", that is cavalry issue items? It must have been as hit and miss as much as the other army items?
Eric
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