Interesting picture

[horsesoldier176]

I recently bought a book on Police agencies of the Soviet Union. It covers this topic from the Revolution, to the Brezhnev era. Among the many pictures is the one I have included of a guard wearing what appears to me to be either a British model 1914, or U.S. model 1917 helmet.



Boridin

[vsahdneek]

What date would you say it represents ?
The allies gave aid to the Russians prior to the revolution during ww1, and then later sent troops to guard this aid to keep it from the revolutionaries .... do you think perhaps this is from a shipment of helmets that predates the revolution that actually got to the Tsar's forces who then wend red?

So how is the book in general ... does it help us with the KMD impression ?

Volodymyr

[crazydima]

Tovarischi,

I will have to do some digging but I believe one of Shalito's books or one of the helmet reference books has a very similar helmet in it.

The Soviets did produce that style of helmet for a limited time. I keep thinking it was one made during the GPW in Lenningrad during the siege as part of their issue to civil defense or something like that.

Any date for the picture?


Sincerely,

Dima

[horsesoldier176]

Jan 13, 2010 15:14:41 GMT -5 vsahdneek said:

What date would you say it represents ?
The allies gave aid to the Russians prior to the revolution during ww1, and then later sent troops to guard this aid to keep it from the revolutionaries .... do you think perhaps this is from a shipment of helmets that predates the revolution that actually got to the Tsar's forces who then went red?

So how is the book in general ... does it help us with the KMD impression ?

Volodymyr

Per my discussions of this picture on a different forum, this May be a Leningrad Civil Defense Helmet. It is not clear for sure, but the general shape is correct for the Leningrad helmet. There is some debate though, because of other issues. As an example, the kaska in this picture clearly has a rolled rim, but the folks on the other forum, who knew of the Leningrad CD kaska, seem to agree that the Leningrad kaska did not have a rolled rim, soooo...

If the picture were better, that might help, but it is what it is.

As to the book. It is great. It covers Police type agencies from the Revolution, to the Brezhnev era, but does not deal with Military police, per se, it is more the Cheka, OGPU, NKVD, KGB, and the National Militia. It is very interesting though.

Boridin