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Post by horsesoldier176 on Jul 6, 2011 11:59:07 GMT -5
Well, I don't do very many tacticals, as I am not as young, and I did them for 23 years in the Army, but on the odd occasion I do do them, I tend to carry between 500, to 1,000 rounds for my PPs-43.
BTW, what propellant do you use for yours? I have been playing with various recipes, and have not found one I am happy with yet.
Boridin
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Post by timdp on Jul 17, 2011 12:20:39 GMT -5
Sasha, could you give us an intro to making 7.62x25 blanks? Where to get brass. loads, basic process?
Spaciba,
Viktor
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Post by horsesoldier176 on Jul 18, 2011 10:25:09 GMT -5
When using the 5.56mm NATO case, the most time consuming aspect of the process, is the prep of the case. It takes me far longer to prep the cases, than any other aspect of the process.
When I produce my 7.62 x 25 blanks, I make them the same length, when crimped, as a live case, to aid in feeding in full auto for my PPs-43, or PPsh-41 BFONGs, but I make them shorter for my TT-33. The longer case has ejection issues in the pistol, as the ejection port is smaller than on either sub gun.
I also seal the crimp with a sealant, to prevent moisture contamination. The easiest sealant is cheap nail polish. It comes in various colors, which you can use to denote various loads.
Reloading for blank loads is actually more complicated than loading live rounds, and requires more steps, but the necessity of ensuring close tolerances for your propellant loads is not as strict as it must be for live ammo.
Boridin
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Post by timdp on Jul 22, 2011 11:49:56 GMT -5
Spaciba!
So .223 brass is the way to go? Are there any alternatives for brass?
Viktor
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Post by horsesoldier176 on Jul 23, 2011 12:00:55 GMT -5
There are two variants of blank ammo brass that can be used, but after used as a blank, they are scrap brass. Both are 9mmP blanks, but will function acceptably in a 7.62 x 25 chambered weapon.
To my knowledge, there is no 7.62 x 25, or .30 Mauser blank case produced, hence the reason I make my own. BTW: 7.62 x 25, and .30 Mau are virtually identical. .30 Mau is a slightly longer case, and generally uses a 95 grain bullet, whereas 7.62 x 25 uses a heavier bullet. I could not find the proper .310 dia, 100 grain bullets, so I just use .308 dia, 110 grain bullets. The 110 grain bullet is the same bullet used in M-1 carbine rounds, and when loaded in the hotter 7.62 x 25 load (hotter than .30 Mau), it makes very acceptable sub gun ammo.
The advantage to 5.56mm brass, is, after use as a blank, it can then be trimmed down, and loaded for live 7.62 x 25 ammo. After using for a blank, trim to proper length for a live cartridge, inside ream the neck, then anneal the neck. This will soften the brass, reducing metal fatigue, and extending the life of the case. Eventually, the neck will split, at that point, I trim it to proper length for 9 mm K, or .380 (same thing), and continue to use it until it is worn out, at which point it becomes scrap metal, gets recycled back into a new case, and starts all over again.
The key to doing this is take your time, and don't rush the process. There are multiple tools, and machines that make the process easier, but of course add expense.
Boridin
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Post by horsesoldier176 on Jul 23, 2011 12:04:14 GMT -5
By the way, if the fascists are outgunned, it only serves them right, and is pay back for all the years they had us outgunned.
Boridin
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Post by crazysasha on Jul 30, 2011 21:23:02 GMT -5
Centerfire has the PPS 43 for $269.99.
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